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Plan Routes and Tracks

Any map that focuses on guiding you along tails and small ways will not route over long distances on you GPS. While Nuvis, and possibly Oregon/Colorado have some more processing power and due to reasonable screen size make it possible to plan routes on the GPS directly to some extent, Vista HCx / Legend HCx or edge 705 users will usually plan their routes in mapsource or using Top 50 maps. 

As the Autorouting of the VeloMap in Garmin Mapsource usually works very well, but once you send long routes without via-points to your GPS the GPS cannot recalculate the route you either have to insert additional via points, which is directly in Mapsource not the easiest thing or you can use WinGDB ( http://www.sackman.info/ ) to insert additional via-points to your route.

This is what I wan’t to explain here.

Please use Mapsource 6.16 or Basecamp 3 for autorouting. It has a new routing engine/algorythm that is superior to older Mapsource versions, that also behaves more closely to the GPS.

 

Setting Up Mapsource: 

I usually set Mapsource to use Car/Motorcycle – Shorter Distance – Prefer Highways slider to the right (this is found under tools à Preferences à Routing)

Mapsource Autorouting Settings

 

In case you plan a cycle route and want to avoid difficult tracks and trails check “Toll Roads” in the “Try to Avoid” panel.

If you wan’t to have more accurate time information go to advanced and set the following speeds:

Driving Speeds Mapsource

Note that I only divided the lower three values by two. Changing Interstate Highways or major Highways speed value does not matter. 

You can play around changing to other speeds, but the more you change here, the greater will be the difference on your GPS in terms of how it recalculates the routes as you can’t set these speeds on your GPS itself. Therefore I would advise simply dividing these values by a factor (i.e. 2). 

Now click on close, and in the Routing window click on Apply.

 

 

The actual root planning: 

  1. Plan your route in Mapsource, To do that click on the route tool (the tool in the middle):

And click at each point you want to go to.

  1. Go to File à Save as and save the route as gdb file (the default filetype)
  2. Open Wingdb (0.43 or later – download it here: http://www.sackman.info/ ), open the saved route and use option "5. Add extra via points to routes”. You can set in preferences the average distance between via points that should be used. The lower the distance the closer your GPS will stick to the route calculated. I usually set 5km for routes that go through cities, or up to 9km for cycle routes alongside national/international cycle routes like the “Donauradwanderweg”.

You can either save the output or reopen it in a new Mapsource window ( on Output Mapsource is checked), which is what we do here now. To start WinGDB click on "Convert". Please note as of WinGDB Version 3.50 Option 5 is found under Route Conversions with number 15.

 

WinGDB

 

 

 

  1. Back in Mapsource, Right click on the route and recalculate it. Now I usually set Mapsource Preferences to “faster route” and leave the slider in the middle. This way route recalculation will be more or less the same as in Mapsource. I use the additional 1. step of calculating the route with “shorter route” and “prefer highways” so that the route is rather straight. If you don’t mind some detours you could both times use “faster distance”.
  2. Now click on Transfer à Send to device and send the route to the GPS. Attention Mapsource will also send routes to an external cardreader, but you can’t reopen them. Therefore contrary to sending cards, you have to connect the PGS via USB to your computer. Note that most units have a maximum of 20 routes that they can save, and the filename for a route is maximum 12 or 14 characters long. If there are more routes old routes may be overwritten, if the route name does not differ in the first 12 characters, the same will happen.

 

Attention: Recalculation of a route on GPS can only work if the same map that is used to generate the route in Mapsource, also is activated on the GPS itself. If this is not the case either transfer it, or use tracks instead of routes. You can use WinGDB to make tracks out of routes (see below).

 

Additional Tipps:

Type of Way, way attributes

To see on what kind of streets a route is calculated, double click the route and click on the “directions” tab. Here you can see the names of the streets/routes and as suffix the type of road. Also additional info like xbk (no bicycles allowed) or bkrt (bicycle route) give further info about the type of ways.

 Route Information

 

Tracks instead of Routes

If you don't have the VeloMap installed on your GPS, you can still profit from routes calculated with Mapsource, by using WinGDB to convert Tracks into routes.

 

Also If you need more than 20 routes on your GPS, or you prefer to work with tracks in general, or you have non Garmin GPS, you can use WinGDB to create a track from the route. Tracks are overlayed on you GPS over the map (whereas routes are shown below a street), and guide you in straight lines between each point.
 

Whereas routes only offer 50 viapoints (on most outdoor units, Some GPS may have higher limits), tracks can have 500 or more points per track depending on the GPS you want to use the track with. Which of the options 11-14 best suits your needs is explained in the WinGDB helpfile.

 

 

12 comments to Plan Routes and Tracks

  • John Whalley

    I recently switched to using basecamp instead of mapsource and have been trying out a new technique:

    create a course in Garmin Connect
    send the course’s GPX from Connect to my device (or an SD card in the PC’s card reader)
    it appears in Basecamp as a track and I use the Basecamp convertor to convert the track to a route with 50 waypoints – the maximum, I believe for my device (Legend Hcx)

    First ride, over a 25 km course that I know well already, was not very successful; many times the GPS was asking me to hop over to the cycleway on the other side of the road, or where I should turn right, the GPS asked me to a little further, u-turn and then turn left

    Anybody else any experience with this technique?

    Cheers, John

  • hotbelgo

    Hi, interested to know why you have not switched to Basecamp, given that Mapsource has not been updated since 2010. That on it’s own it not a reason to switch, if you get good routing from MS, but I guess I tend to err towards the newer (and because MS does not exist for Mac), so it would be great for me if you could optimise for BC.

  • rolandvongilead

    WinGDB habe ich nicht benutzt, da ich die meist ca. 40 WP manuell gesetzt habe.
    Die kürzeste Tour (65 km) habe ich manuell mit zusätzlichen WP versehen, um die max. 50 möglichen zu nutzen – ohne Erfolg bei der Routenberechnung.
    Gestern habe ich bin ich hier in Thüringen mal eine 45 km Runde mit 28 WP gefahren. Keine Probleme bei der Routenberechnung am Start oder unterwegs bei Routenabweichungen.
    Liegt das Problem den an der Region, in der die Routen liegen?

    • extremecarver

      Benutz trotzdem WinGDB. Ohne ist Glücksspiel

    • Udini

      Hallo rolandvongilead,

      ich habe auch das Vista aber das Vista HCx und bin letztes Jahr mit der Velomap einwandfrei 1200 km aufgeteilt in nur sechs Routen bis kurz vor Rom mit dem Rad gekommen und natürlich wieder zurück.

      Ich pass auf, dass eine Route nicht über 250 Richtungsanweisungen kommt denn mehr kann das Vista HCx nicht berechnen.

      Dann lasse ich die Routen immer im Auto/ Motorrad, kürzere Entfernung und unbefestigte Straßen vermeiden Modus berechnen, automatische Routenneuberechnung lass ich deaktiviert anders klappt es bei mir auch nicht.

      So kann ich Routen, je nach Straßendichte der Gegend, bis zu 250 km ohne Probleme manchmal mit nur 12 – 30 Wegpunkte am Vista HCx berechnen lassen. Manchmal weichen die Routen ein wenig von den vorher in MapSouce geplanten Routen, ab das sind dann aber nur kleine Abweichungen die nicht weiter stören.

      Grüße Udini

  • rolandvongilead

    Also ich habe jetzt für unsere nächste Urlaubstour 11 Tagesetappen mit Mapsource 6.16.3 geplant, alle mit jeweils max. 40 Wegpunkten u. 50 – 90 km. Die Hinweise zur Routenplanung habe ich berücksichtig – trotzdem funktioniert die Routenberechnung für die Straßennavigation mit meinem etrex vista Cx nicht. Entweder “Routenberechnungsfehler”, oder nach Erreichen der 100%-Marke passiert nichts oder nach einer Ewigkeit erscheint die Meldung “… nicht genügend Speicher…”
    Das Ganze habe ich allerdings nur im Vorführmodus testen können.
    Hat jemand noch einen Tip für mich, bevor ich alle Routen mit noch mehr Wegpunkten versehen lasse u. mit Luftliniennavigation arbeite (was eigentlich schade wäre)
    Gruß
    Micha

  • Danke für die sehr gute Beschreibung Routen und Tracks planen

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